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Guyaholic Chat: Relationships and Sexuality

June 10, 2007

Here’s more to enjoy from our chat about Guyaholic:

Jolene: What else did you enjoy about Guyaholic? What did you think about Sam’s character?
Pretty static, nothing much to him except he’s a cool guy.
Trisha: Liked him, and his name.
Gayle: What did he see in V?
Jolene: It seemed like Mackler almost forgets him, and the last two pages are an afterthought to the character.
Jolene: She’s hot?
Trisha: Well, I don’t think the secondary characters are as important in the book as V, because it’s her journey.
Jolene: True. Maybe I would’ve liked to see more character development on that side.
Gayle: Sam seems to be more of a plot element.
Trisha: Totally.
Jolene: Yeah I agree. Good point.
Gayle: Sam’s there because we need a good guy.
Gayle: Same reason why we need Nate.
Jolene: Because V’s so bad?
Trisha: Someone unlike her, whom she never thought she’d fall in love with. (Re: Sam)
Jolene: Good boy meets crazy girl.
Gayle: Same as we need hockey jock.
Jolene: I liked the way they meet, totally original.
Trisha: So she can get hit on the head by a puck!
Gayle: You need the good guy to show you, you have self worth?
Gayle: V doesn’t seem capable of being alone.
Trisha: To stick with you long enough to get to the point where you want to change?
Gayle: There needs to be male attention.
Jolene: Yeah I guess Sam highlights her dependence on people.
Gayle: Her sexuality is her power.
Jolene: Her need for some sort of emotional bond, since her mom is not there emotionally.
Trisha: Except she’s in denial about that.
Gayle: Part of who V is her sexual identity.
Trisha: I liked that V was the sexually experienced one.
Trisha: And that she wasn’t ashamed of her sexual desires or experience.
Jolene: I think that’s what made her character so complicated. She was sexually experienced, but not emotionally mature.
Gayle: She’s known from early on, that guys will do what she wants because she’s sexy.
Gayle: What to do with the sexual power?
Jolene: Rule the world like Pamela Anderson.
Trisha: She uses sex to keep from forming emotional attachments, like a guy, in some ways.
Gayle: Experimentation to see what fits her.
Gayle: So she freaks out when Sam fits.
Jolene: Yes good point! That’s why I like Sam so much he’s like the girl in the relationship.
Trisha: The one who wants a relationship.
Jolene: I could totally see V as a character on the Real World.
Gayle: There are both men and women who want commitment.
Gayle: Just depends on the personality type.
Jolene: I guess it’s the stereotype that we most see often in romance books.
Trisha: But what was interesting about her is that her voice, even with all her additional experience, is so similar to Mara, and Virginia, and I can never remember the name of the narrator of Love and Other Four-Letter Words.
Jolene: How so?
Gayle: Samantha
Gayle: Haha, another Sam.
Trisha: V is a completely different character than the other three narrators, but her voice is the same.
Trisha: I was expecting something different, but it totally works.
Jolene: Is the language? Style of storytelling?
Trisha: Gayle, help me out here!
Gayle: To make an inaccessible character accessible is the mark of a good writer right?
Gayle: Mackler somehow hits a bull’s eye with feelings of the protagonists.
Jolene: True like Stephanie Meyer’s characters.
Gayle: They all feel insecure with who they are, a common theme.
Trisha: I guess after VVV, because V was so different from Mara, I was expecting her voice to be different. More wild or outrageous or something.
Gayle: Inner growth comes from challenging themselves in some way

Jolene: Very Zen.

Gayle: Mara in stepping out of her emotional cocoon and dating the Common Grounds guy.

Gayle: Virginia when she steps out of her usual and becomes the new green haired Virginia who’s not afraid to speak what she thinks–in essence standing up to her mother and her mother’s expectations.

Trisha: Realizing everyone else in her family isn’t perfect.

Gayle: V in accepting who she is, not thinking of her self as damaged goods or whatever socio-oppressive phrase there is for a sexually aware woman.

Trisha: But “damaged goods” in the sense of being relationship-shy because of her mother, right?

Gayle: Yeah.

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